Medieval II Total War Turkish Chronicles 15 Divide to Conquer
Ok here we go for the Mongols Invasion part of the Turkish Chronicles
But first some context the "war" starts at the turn 79.
Since the turn 45, I control, Russia, Hungarian, Sicily, half of Germany and most of the Polish territory.
Now this part of the campaign will only show stuff related to the Mongols, so, the war against most of Europe will be skip.
Let’s begin by some strategy explanations. Since as we all know Mongols have many 9 stars general, many very experienced units. They are hard to destroy, also they move as a horde around pillaging everything and most of the time leaving city as rebel. So that leaded me to ask myself well how to stop that?
The answer I found was, well if I were them and I have nothing to defend, I would move as a horde, but when you have things to defend, you need to divide your force so that you don't lose ground. So I choose to star the war by giving the Mongols the fort of Bulgar as the video will show. But giving 1 fort still doesn't force the enemy to spread a lot. So I gave The Mongols the city of Nuremberg. Giving cities, also gave me an alliance with the Mongols. So by giving the city of Nuremberg to them, I was hoping they would star a war against European faction, making their army walk on my territory to reach that front. Of course I wasn't very convinced that this would work, but was worth trying.
In fact it worked but in an unexpected way. Since Nuremberg and an other city I gave them were more developed, well the Mongols made them Capital. So leaving such city without a governor is a bad Idea. So the Mongols sent most of their generals alone (trusting my alliance) toward those city in middle Europe. Seeing all those 9 star general moving alone was a very very very good target of opportunity. But I wasn't the one starting the hostilities. They did by attacking a fort on the East. As soon as they did that, I send my Archer cavalry to kill all those isolated Mongols generals, and killed right at the beginning of the war 7 generals in battles where my only lose were from friendly fire. Leaving probably only 4 or 5 generals far less powerful, the strongest being probably 5 star of command.
So the first video show show you how I killed those general, and the future video will show you the war against the powerful armies of the Mongols.
If you need some enlightenment, feel free to ask in the comment.
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wow these mogol generals are stupid, they don't even try to kill any of your units. Btw good acher cavalry :d
hehe, well as soon as they would have charge, my cavalry would have run. So I think the computer considered that staying on his position gave him the best defensive advantage. But under soo many arrows, it would not change much to the end =)
Hello, I am here again, lately I am very busy with studying so I stop watching your campaigns for a while. Well, about that screenshots, if you still remember, I tried to upload them on the site you said, but I couldn't. Don't worry about that. I want to explain you a very one of my gratest victories. Well, I am playing the Barbarian Invasion (I know that you don't like so much the expansions) with the Saxons. The Saxons start with one city in Danmark, they don't have very strong army in the beginning (the basic troops that I use are a medium-light spearmans), but wheen you have some Urbes or Metropolies, you can create rather strong heavy infantry. For now I conquered Britain and Ireland, Western Germany and France, except the southern part (most of this territory that are controlled by the Western Roman Impery, that is really weak and have a lots of rebellions). I defeated the Celts and the Alamans. I didn't attack the eastern barbarian factions and the franks until now, because they have only one city, and if you conquer them, they abandon the city and make an Hord (the population of the city turn into soldiers and the hords move around the map pillaging the cities and leaving them to rebels until they become weaks and stay on one of the cities that they conquer) and then its a risk that they come to your another cities and attack them. But, now I am powerfull, so I attacked the burgurdans (they have a territory on the North of the present-day Poland). They have the armies out of the city, in the city they have only three generals. I take the city with my king and 5 units of my elite infantery. The burgundians create 3 big hords (the hords have a big number of weak units and some medium-strong units, and also the units that were out of the city and saved of the defeat), one smaller hord and some generals without other units. My king is really old (77 years), so i think to use him to kill that generals without armies. I attacked one of this generals, but I didn't expect that one of the big armies were into the reinforcements. I just done this battle. My king (52 bodyguards) vs a general (25 bodyguards) and two reinforcement armies: one with the heir only with his bodyguards (36 bodyguards), and the king with a hord army and most of the regular units that survived (45 bodyguards, regular and hord light cavalery, one unit of elite cavalery, one unit of archers, some regular weak spearmans and hord spearmen: total 1003 men). My fitst plan was to attack and kill the general, and, if i could, the heir and retire myself. My king's unit was a bit stronger (it had 2 levels of experience and 1 level of the weapon improvement and 1 level in the armour improvement), so I could win and kill the general and the heir with a charge on the flank and a short fight (with the first one i've lost only 3 men, and with the second one i've lost 6 men, and I won 1 more level of experience). When I was done with them, the big army was really close with a perfect 1 line formation, so I charged the archers in the middle of the formation and I was near to defeat them when the another units that were surrounding me, force me to abandone the fight and run away, but the enemy king (that was just near the archers) charged on me, and I used it to separete him of the line (that was beginning to desorganize) and then I charged onto the enemy king and I was able to defeat and kill him (i've lost about 9 men). After that, I combine running around to separate the enemy units and attacking the weaker ones. First, i defeated most of the light cavalry, and when I fight and defeat the enemy elite cavalry unit I lost 2 or 3 men. After that, it was very easy, the units were too weak and too desmoralized to hold out against my general. I was careful to don't fight with more of one unit at the same time and I won the battle with no more casualties. I killed almost all the infantry and most of the cavalry (of the first army, only survived 3 men, of the second, 5 men, and of the big army 84; in my unit, 34 men survived and 5 more recovered). After the battle, i retired myself to the city, but for now i don't have enough movement, so i built a fort. If the other armies attack me (in the nearby there are still two big armies with only one general and one smaller) i will take the 5 units of my elite infantry to attack them (yes, it's not very much against 3 armies, but i think i can win). If they don't attack me, maybe I will try to kill the enemy general remaining with my king (not without saving before, of course) because if I will be able to do it, i will destroy the faction.
Seem to have been a very great battle and close. You did a good use of the strategy of dividing force to kill them isolated. Must have been stressing ;-)
Dear Attila:
I have two "technical" questions for you:
First:
When I start the campaign with some faction there are some characters called "generals",that command armies whilst not being captains nor family members;my question is: How do I get those??
Second:
When I start the game game with the two orthodox factions,they have bishops,but I cannot train them in the religious buildings,not even in the most advanced ones;my question is also:How do I get those??
Thank you for your time.
well Legnano, as far as I know, the General are family member. If you don't have a general commanding an army, well a random captain take comment from one of your units. Sometime If that captain make a big victory, well he can become a familly member and become a General.
Now I should not tell that... but there is a cheat or bug, that allow you to recruit captain as general nearly all the time... But i don't use it it's kinda cheap, and i don't like cheat. But If after a battle with a captain, you quicksave, and quickload, the captain will be name "man of the hour" allowing you to recrute him... I experenced that cheat in random time in Rome Total War and Medieval II Total War. So I can't confirme if it does systematically work, but it happened to me many time.
As for the orthodoxes priest, well religious temple should allow you to recruits them...
That's what I like about this game...you can play so many different ways. Very creative! Personally, I put spearmen and catapults on the bridges they needed to cross and let the catapults kill all their armies.
yeah catapult and bridge is a very good mix indeed. By far the best way to decimate strong armies
Really cool Attila ^^ I have always wondered how to get rid of the mongols. The only time i did it was when i played as Russia and had occupied nearly all of europe. The Timurids were attaacking them from the mongols from the other end, when I was attacking them from the constantinople region.
But seriously, that the momgols didn't attack you with their generals i believe only is a bugg. You can stand there for 15 minutes with foot archers, and they can still hold the ground without leaving. It's a kind of stupid, and I hope that the producers will fix it in the future.
yeah well in fact they didn't attacked me with those general, they were moving them toward Europe to reinforce the 2 city i gave them... What was surprising was that they had no escort... Anyway... As you will see soon, even without a general Mongols are still very powerfull
I would never have thought of giving them a province on the other side of the map, My reasoning would be to kill as much of the Golden Horde as possible before they get enough povinces to replace their losses. This would eventually make them as easy to defeat as the others. It's hard to fight the Mongols well when they've got such good horse archerss and your only light cavalry is hobilars. It gets easier once you get demi-lancers though. Demi-lancers are my favoutite cavalry.
If you are fighting an offensive battle (you attacked them) the enemy doesn't attack, no matter how much the outnumber you.
Kapernicus
yeah true =)
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