Medieval II Total War Campaign Chronicles

Monday, January 01, 2007

Medieval II Total War Turkish Chronicles 02 Turn 5-8



This second episode shows you what I was explaining before in the first episode. the expansion of the Byzantine on the West is a menace. So I took this opportunity to engage the Byzantine into a war that had to happen sooner or later. So, the first battles against Byzantine happen when they try to lift a siege. This battle wasn’t expected so soon, but played in my favor.

By engaging me outside the wall it allows me to use my archer cavalry mobility and superiority to decimate the enemies on the flank. At the same moment his cavalry archer where attacking me on my left flank But inflicted me superficial lost and were weaken by my foot archer at the same time.

An other, advantage I had was that by trying to lift a siege, the Byzantines were dividing their forces into two armies. So you could call that divide to conquer. =)



In this second part of the turn 8 Byzantine makes a minor victory again my reinforcement. Soon followed by an attempt to break siege by an other rebel fort.

The Tactic I use is the same as in the first battle of the episode one. I encircle the enemies and engage them on all side. I think what made that battle easier was the very early death of the enemy general. I won with few dead soldiers.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey, I've just recently started watching your videos, really really great mate, keep them up :).

Just wanted to laugh at the first video, they didn't move and just let you shoot the guy :D.

Attila said...

hehe yeah, sometime the AI doesn't really understand that waiting is actually a bad idea =)
And welcome! =)

Jake Kelly said...

Awesome videos Atilla, These turkish chronicles are very interesting thus far. :)

Anonymous said...

Yet again nice work Attila. I am still playing on M/M although I'm sure I could at least go onto H/H.

I was wondering do you always put your settlements on auto manage for construction? Because I have started trying that recently but the AI rarely seems to construct anything in my settlements :S.

Anonymous said...

Dear Atila:
Have you ever suffered a MAJOR defeat in the game??

Attila said...

hehe thanks Jake, lets hope they will stay interesting! =)

Well super_neil, I alway do, but you need to notice something also, I alway choose what I build at the same time. the only reason I alway put auto build is for the case where I forget to tell what to build. When you empire get bigger sometime I take a lot of time to manage all of it, and you might forget about it.

So I seem to use auto manage, but in fact I manage myself. =)

hey Anonymous
(you should choose a name in other =)
Do i have ever suffer a major defeat?

Well I never had a Major defeat as far as i remember. Now I had some defeat but in general, I kill as many enemies as I can before losing and those defeat serve my long term goal. So sometime a defeat can be a long term victory =)

But in a couple of video you will see an average defeat. =)

Anonymous said...

whats the ai policy bar at?

Full spend, Full save or in the middle?

Attila said...

well i leave it on default, but I alway spend all my money per turn.

Anonymous said...

Ive been watching your rome battles and your medieval 2 battles. Wondering what your fav unit type is, and your least fav unit type. Seems to be cavalary for you. Im a fan of balance in my units, my computer cant play Medieval 2 but, in rome. In my larger armies, i always have 60% infantry 20-40% cavalary and usually the rest is range units, like skirmishers. I for the most part use Infantry as my base of attention, while i drive off enemy units with showers of missles and numerous cavalary charges. I dont really use any other tactics, unless the battles calls for it. But normally i like to do, might for might. Which now begs a new question. What is your favorite tactic? Since you use missles alot it seems to be to pin them down till you get your infantry close enough. I play realalistic so ammo runs out and people get tired. how do you play?

Attila said...

Hey HannoTheOld.

Well I think my "favorite" army setup is similar to what you describe as you favorite.
Might sound weird but I consider myself more like an infantry commender.

But being that doesn't mean I won't use the army I have. For exemple in the Turkish chronicles, I use mostly archer cavalry since that's the best units you can have for that faction. Similar thing for the Polish Chronicles. But if you check Sicilian chronicles I use far more infantry. With the French I use more heavy cavalry, with the English more archer, etc.

So when I play, I use what I have and I don't wait to build the perfect army that might be build after many turn =)

As for my favorit tactic, well hard to say, I alway adapt to the situation, but I enjoy the charge. That's a vague answer but I don't really have a clear tactic. I can change tactic 50 time during a single battle. The tactic depend the enemy weakness. =)

Anonymous said...

Thats true, In my carthage campaign ive been using the elephants to rope the enemy in to my infantry who soak them up then break away for a cavalary charge to break them, then have the cavalary charge them down into the ground.

Attila said...

yep, good tactic =)

Anonymous said...

Its very good. Doesnt matter how good your units are really. An elephant is an Elephant. Ha ha. When i get a better system, ill test my metal against you. Cause even with rome, i see lag at low settings. =/

Attila said...

hehe, well i'm not a fan of the multi, really don't enjoy it.
Too point less for me. =)
But enjoy your new system when you get it! =)

Anonymous said...

Hi Attila,
I've been playing the Rome since some years ago. I like strategic videogames, and the Total War games are one of the more realistic games that i've played. I also think that the game "Cossacks II" have very realistic battles, but in 2D, and the campaign system isn't very good. Have you played that game?
Well, I discover your site with your Youtube videos, and i am really surprised and admired with your skills on that game. Well, I don't play that well as you, but I think that I don't play very badly.
I realized that you don't use the pause, for me it is really difficult to control all the front without the pause. And I also use the pause to get a perfect syncronization with my operations. Two charges against one unit from two diferent sides can be really destructive if you sincronyze them.
My favourite strategy in the battles is the macedonian strategy, very basic, but also very effective: I do a front with the infantry and I put the cavalery on the flanks; I attack the enemy front with the infantry and I maneuver with the cavalery to move it to the enemies' rearguard and charge to the general from the two sides if it stay without fighting yet, and when I kill the general, I attack the rearguard of the units that are fighting with my infantry.
Well, I will be really grateful if you give me your opinion about my strategy. And I sometimes have a little problem with the citys that ruin my strategy and cause more dies in my soldiers that I want: when you are fighting in a city the units have a tendency to go by the center of the streets and they usually change the formation, and it make me really difficult to do some maneuvers and to react well.
About the Medieval 2 I really want to play it, but I don't have enough good computer, so I must wait to a new computer. Meanwhile i will watch your plays. I really like the polish campaign because my father is polish, and I've been living in Poland. If you do a spanish campaign, i will really enjoy it.
I am sorry about my english level, but I am spanish and i am only 16 years old, so please don't be so surprised if i don't write well.

Anonymous said...

Well Mep Attila's first langauage isnt english, and you both speak it better then sadly some Americans(cant say anything for the Uk's peeps since i wouldnt know)

But as for yuor strategy. Itll be Better if you used your cavs to break down the enemys front line, cause once thats done, you could surround and isolate units like the generals body guard so they cant run, good strategy to ensure the death of a top class enemy general. Also helps stop anyone who runs with realativly fresh cavalary.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Henno, that can be a good strategy, and I use it sometimes, but to break the front and desorganize the units of a medium heavy infantry, like barbarian sworsdsman, iberic infantry or another infantery with the same level, without losing many men you need a really heavy cavalery unit, like the general's bodyguard, but i don't like to use the generals to the first charge, because it can incite the enemies to charge with all units against my general.
Well, and if it's a spearman infantry it's a madness to charge frontally with the cavalery. But if you have enough heavy cavalery, it's a really good strategy to charge against the front with the heavy cavalery first to break and desorganize the formation, when you are done with the charge, you can try to cross over the enemy units and take place in the rearguard, and just after the cavalery's charge you can come with the infantery to finish with the desorganized enemy units.
It's a good strategy with a faction that have really powerful cavalery, like parths.

Attila said...

hey mep, really nice comment and question there =)
And well written as point out HannoTheOld, (I think he can better judge of it then me =)

As for Cossack II. Well i played a little the demo, I played a little more to the first Cossack, America Conquest (mostly during the beta test). Those are good game even if they are in 2D. But I never played them that much, mostly because 1 game can take 1 hours as a minimum!
(unless you use some weird peasant tactic... was weird to being storm by a horde of peasant, hehe)

As for your strategy I must say I used that one a lot in Medieval 1. It's an effective strategy when the enemy general is really powerfull and give a lot of moral to his army. but as HannoTheOld point out, I think in Medieval 2, it's better to make the main battle line rout and after that surround the enemy general. I most of the time kill the enemy general with light cavalry when he run away.

In Rome Total War I think concentrating the the main battle line is also a good thing because the enemy general most of the time will charge your army in the middle.

But of course strategy must be adapted to your armies, your enemies, you general and most of all the strategy you like to use.

Never use a strategy if you are not comfortable with it. Use the strategy you know the best and you are sure can bring you victory.

As for the city defense, I think my best advice would be to take a look at the German Chronicles, I think you will find many city defense tactic there =)

Attila said...

Ok about the front charge of the cavalry, This tactic is very risky in Rome Total War, But in Medieval 2 Total War, Knight are soo powerful that it's sometime can be a good idea. The cavalry charge in Medieval 2 is soo strong that you can kill a lot of enemies that way. But in Rome, it's very risky since most units at the beginning are spearman of many kind.

Anonymous said...

One thing that the total war games i think must improve is the lack of a maritim battle system, i think it would be nice if the next game have one.
About defending citys, i don't have many problems, because if i get under siege, i usually attack first and i take the battle out of the city. If the case it's that the enemies attack me at my city i am really good at organising the deffense. But the problem is when i attack the enemy city, the AI that have a tendency to move by the center of the streets, pass by the center square and change the formations of the units, usually ruin my tactics and it sometimes is frustrating.
Attila, have you ever use the pause for taking decisions? And have you ever played to the Rome Expansions (Barbarian Invasion and Alexander). In the Barbarian Invasion, with the Hunes and the Goths I use many times the Mounted Archers like a standard cavalery, and they lost a lot of men, but they are effective. The Alexander campaign is really difficult, I can't win it, Too many huge Persian Armies.
And I must be patient to wait for playing Medieval 2, it is really tough.

Attila said...

hehe, yeah I was use, to use pause in the past. But as I started recording I decided to stop using the pause. I think it was a good choice and helped me a lot improving myself. Watching myself playing also allow me to see what I can improve, how to optimize my move, what strategy and tactic are effective and stuff like that. So this experience of sharing with the community improved my skill a lot.

It's not that hard to play without pause. Now I nearly only pause if I have to leave my computer or If the game lag soo much that I can't order units to move...

Anonymous said...

hey atilla, i recently started to watch your videos. It seems you are quite the general. I see that you can easily take cities as an attacker. What i'd like to know is how do you take cities so quickly? I can defend, but i can never attack an enemy for some reason i dont do it as often. I once even destroyed the whole vandal horde in one turn using 6 lombardi archers 1 warlord 1 spear warband and a unit of dark raiders. Of course i was defending =/ If you can teach some tricks on how to manage my cities so that i have the minimal amount of units in my cities and more out there in the campaing fighting battles id really apreciate it =). Sorry if i misspelled things my native language is portuguese =/

Attila said...

Hey Joca O Grande,

Well the small trick I use to manage city is to activate the auto manage. This way the AI take care of the taxe for me, But I manage building myself and units myself. To keep order in your city prioritise religion. having people religious is already a good thing to keep order.

As for how to attack city. Well check the Mini guide how to siege, it's will give you a basic idea of what kind of troop to use and how to use it. =)

I think if you read the blog in general and watch videos, you will learn a lot from them and what strategy to use and the good context to use them.

No problem for the English, my normal language is French, so if there was error didn't noticed them =)

haris said...

great videos by the way but i want to ask you something i have no videos for the campaign like the introduction video and i got no speeches when i click on the character or move it please help

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